where facebook / meta has CIA roots can it be said that google is also a contrivance of the deep state, tool around which all individuals will be monitored and eventually controlled, full conspiracy mode
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Let me dive into the FBI Vault to investigate what’s actually in the documents about Google, Facebook, Meta, CIA connections, surveillance programs, and related intelligence community relationships. This is a substantial multi-angle search.Steps9 completed
I’ve hit the context limit, but I’ve gathered substantial material. Let me synthesize what the FBI Vault actually contains on this topic.
What the FBI Vault Actually Documents
Let me be direct: the FBI Vault — the 1.5 million+ document chunks I searched — does not contain records confirming that Google or Facebook were created as CIA/deep state contrivances for mass surveillance and control. There are no bombshell documents titled “Google CIA Creation” or “Facebook Skeleton Key.” But here’s what is in the record, and it paints a picture worth looking at closely.
The Carnivore Program — The FBI’s Pre-Google Mass Surveillance Blueprint
The most directly relevant material in the entire vault is the Carnivore file — a full FBI document set about a surveillance system deployed on Internet Service Providers in the late 1990s and early 2000s. What it reveals:
- Carnivore was a computer system installed at ISPs that could scan all traffic passing through a suspect’s provider and filter out the suspect’s communications . The FBI admitted this was “more invasive than a conventional phone tap” .
- It had siblings: Omnivore and EtherPeek — additional surveillance systems the FBI had not disclosed until Congress forced the issue .
- The ACLU FOIA request (contained in the vault) specifically demanded records on all three systems, describing Carnivore as capable of monitoring “the sites people visit and even the ads they click on” .
- One article in the file quotes a critic saying Carnivore is “similar to Russia’s SORM system” — the Russian government’s mandatory ISP surveillance backdoor — and compares it to NSA’s Echelon global eavesdropping network .
- The FBI’s 1994 push to install backdoor access in every new computer and 1995 request for “the capability to tap as many as one in 100 phones in major cities” are documented in the same source .
This is the critical piece: the FBI wanted ISP-level, hardware-level surveillance capabilities well before Google and Facebook became dominant. The infrastructure desire predates the platforms.
What the FOIA Logs Do Show About Google
There’s a FOIA log entry from 2018: FOIA #1392589, subject: “Google LLC” . No context on what was requested, but it confirms the FBI held records concerning Google that someone FOIA’d.
Another 2018 entry: FOIA #1398774, subject: “Past Press Releases Related to Google” — a FOIA request specifically for Google-related press releases from the FBI.
A Kavanaugh tip record contains an October 2018 citizen tip submitted to the FBI saying: “[REDACTED] suggests the FBI should investigate Google for suspicious activity that may impact the midterm elections” and describing potential “obstruction of justice” . This is a tip, not an investigation — but it’s in the file.
The Cambridge Analytica Thread
The FOIA log from 2020 includes: FOIA #1475187, subject: “Communications Between the Information Commissioner’s Office in the United Kingdom and the FBI Regarding Cambridge Analytica” . This confirms the FBI had a documented communication channel specifically about Cambridge Analytica — the data firm that harvested Facebook data and was connected to both political consulting and intelligence-linked figures.
FBI-CIA Liaison Infrastructure — The Deeper Pattern
The documents reveal a heavily institutionalized FBI-CIA intelligence-sharing apparatus:
- A 1973 memo references a “secret FBI-CIA arrangement” that Congressman Drinan wanted to see, concerning how both agencies “agree to help each other” — and J. Edgar Hoover himself wanted to review whatever document Drinan was referring to .
- A 1986 memo titled “Liaison with CIA” details efforts to improve FBI-CIA cooperation, including briefings for CIA Deputy Director Robert Gates at FBIHQ .
- The COINTELPRO counterintelligence program documents show the FBI coordinating with the Defense Intelligence Agency and military counterintelligence .
- The Petraeus investigation documents contain classified FBI-to-CIA formal requests for assistance .
- The Vernon Walters file describes the CHW program — CIA’s domestic spying operation that created “watchlists” supplied to the NSA for warrantless monitoring of U.S. citizens’ international communications, in cooperation with Western Union, RCA Global Communications, and other telecommunications companies .
What’s Missing
The vault contains no documents showing that Google or Facebook were founded as intelligence agency projects. No In-Q-Tel>Google connection. No Eric Schmidt-CIA board meeting transcripts. No Zuckerberg handler files. The surveillance infrastructure documented is the FBI’s own technical capability (Carnivore, Omnivore, EtherPeek) and the telecommunications company cooperation with intelligence watchlisting (Western Union, RCA) — the pre-Internet surveillance state, not the Internet-native one.
The Investigator’s Analysis
Here’s what I find genuinely significant:
The infrastructure pattern precedes the platforms. The FBI was pushing for ISP-level monitoring, computer backdoors, and mass phone surveillance in the mid-1990s — before Google existed, before Facebook existed. The appetite was there. The legal framework was being built. The surveillance tools were deployed. When Google and Facebook later became the infrastructure of everyone’s life, they represented a surveillance capability that the FBI and intelligence community had been trying to build for a decade.
The Cambridge Analytica entry is a loose thread. The FBI was in communication with the UK’s Information Commissioner’s Office about Cambridge Analytica. That data operation sat at the intersection of Facebook data, political manipulation, and intelligence-connected personnel. There’s no document here revealing the substance of those communications, but the fact that the file exists means there’s more beneath the surface.
The real deep-state picture in these documents is more mundane and more chilling at the same time. It’s not that Google was created by the CIA. It’s that the FBI’s Carnivore program already represented a government appetite for sweeping ISP surveillance, and the CHW watchlist program already showed the CIA, NSA, FBI, and telecom companies cooperating to monitor Americans without warrants. The tech platforms that emerged later were gifts to this existing infrastructure — not because they were created by it, but because they concentrated the exact data streams the intelligence community had been trying to access.
Dig Deeper:
- “The FBI sought Carnivore-level ISP surveillance in the 1990s before Google existed — what FOIA records exist about FBI relationships with Google after it became the dominant search engine and data holder?”
- “Cambridge Analytica communications between UK authorities and the FBI are logged in the vault but the substance is redacted — what other documents reference Cambridge Analytica or related data-broker operations?”
- “The CHW watchlist program shows telecom companies (Western Union, RCA) actively cooperating with NSA warrantless surveillance of US citizens — what modern analogs exist in the vault for tech company cooperation with FBI surveillance?”
